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	<description>Shared Experiences in Educating Kids -- and Adults -- About Sexuality</description>
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		<title>Comment on Awful: Leaked Document Outlines Radical Sex Group&#8217;s Plan to &#8220;Change the Way Americans Think about Sex&#8221; by Sarah</title>
		<link>http://beyondbirdsbees.com/2009/09/18/awful/comment-page-1/#comment-449</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 23:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FWIW, I have had discussions (arguments?) with &quot;sex-positive feminists&quot; who are against age of consent laws because they &quot;disempower the child&#039;s ability to consent&quot; and &quot;deny them their sexuality.&quot; In these discussions, we&#039;ve usually been talking about children in the 10-15 age range.

So, while it is fear-mongering, it isn&#039;t completely fabricated, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FWIW, I have had discussions (arguments?) with &#8220;sex-positive feminists&#8221; who are against age of consent laws because they &#8220;disempower the child&#8217;s ability to consent&#8221; and &#8220;deny them their sexuality.&#8221; In these discussions, we&#8217;ve usually been talking about children in the 10-15 age range.</p>
<p>So, while it is fear-mongering, it isn&#8217;t completely fabricated, either.</p>
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		<title>Comment on When Children Find Your Sex Toys by The Boudoir</title>
		<link>http://beyondbirdsbees.com/2009/06/12/when-children-find-your-sex-toys/comment-page-1/#comment-444</link>
		<dc:creator>The Boudoir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 12:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic approach and she is very lucky to have such a open, honest and fun mum!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic approach and she is very lucky to have such a open, honest and fun mum!</p>
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		<title>Comment on An Equally Valid Choice by BeBe, BeyondBirdsBees.com Admin</title>
		<link>http://beyondbirdsbees.com/2009/09/22/equally-valid-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-426</link>
		<dc:creator>BeBe, BeyondBirdsBees.com Admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 18:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This works for you and your wife, Dave, and for that I am truly glad.

But swinging is no more for everyone than is monogamy. It takes a very special couple to open up their relationship long-term (not for a few weeks or months, mind you). I&#039;d not want to push anyone into it or even suggest that it&#039;s the best way to manage a relationship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This works for you and your wife, Dave, and for that I am truly glad.</p>
<p>But swinging is no more for everyone than is monogamy. It takes a very special couple to open up their relationship long-term (not for a few weeks or months, mind you). I&#8217;d not want to push anyone into it or even suggest that it&#8217;s the best way to manage a relationship.</p>
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		<title>Comment on An Equally Valid Choice by lacedback</title>
		<link>http://beyondbirdsbees.com/2009/09/22/equally-valid-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-425</link>
		<dc:creator>lacedback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 01:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading this, I&#039;m curious about a couple of things.

I wonder what about having sex before marriage you find to be &quot;disrespectful&quot; toward your body?  I imagine you are a person who would, when the time comes, have safe sex with someone you care about---so how is that disrespectful of your body if it comes before vs. after marriage?  

You also said you wish to save sex for just you and your husband.  What about sexuality makes you feel it is something to only share with just the person you marry, or what is your goal in only sharing it with your husband?

To be as honest as possible, I ask these particular questions because I see these reasons given by the religious right quite a bit, and I don&#039;t believe they hold up.  I can see many solid reasons for waiting (not the right person, not comfortable with a given act yet, just don&#039;t feel like it, etc) . . . but as for the reasons you gave, I don&#039;t know how well the logic bears out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading this, I&#8217;m curious about a couple of things.</p>
<p>I wonder what about having sex before marriage you find to be &#8220;disrespectful&#8221; toward your body?  I imagine you are a person who would, when the time comes, have safe sex with someone you care about&#8212;so how is that disrespectful of your body if it comes before vs. after marriage?  </p>
<p>You also said you wish to save sex for just you and your husband.  What about sexuality makes you feel it is something to only share with just the person you marry, or what is your goal in only sharing it with your husband?</p>
<p>To be as honest as possible, I ask these particular questions because I see these reasons given by the religious right quite a bit, and I don&#8217;t believe they hold up.  I can see many solid reasons for waiting (not the right person, not comfortable with a given act yet, just don&#8217;t feel like it, etc) . . . but as for the reasons you gave, I don&#8217;t know how well the logic bears out.</p>
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		<title>Comment on An Equally Valid Choice by Dave</title>
		<link>http://beyondbirdsbees.com/2009/09/22/equally-valid-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-424</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 00:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My wife and I are swingers and I have had sex with over 200 different women. Honestly, the more you have sex, the better you get at it. Mine and my wife&#039;s love making skills got much better after we became swingers and started putting some serious notches in our bedpost. Our sex life was never bad, but after 10 years of marriage it was becoming routine. So we decided to go to a swingers club and check it out. We had a great time and have made some great friends and lovers along the way. If you truly love your mate what is wrong with them having sex with someone else? Traditionally after 10 years of marriage couples do one of three things: 1. Cheat 2. Just die sexually 3. Become swingers.

Life is short, have fun, get laid</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife and I are swingers and I have had sex with over 200 different women. Honestly, the more you have sex, the better you get at it. Mine and my wife&#8217;s love making skills got much better after we became swingers and started putting some serious notches in our bedpost. Our sex life was never bad, but after 10 years of marriage it was becoming routine. So we decided to go to a swingers club and check it out. We had a great time and have made some great friends and lovers along the way. If you truly love your mate what is wrong with them having sex with someone else? Traditionally after 10 years of marriage couples do one of three things: 1. Cheat 2. Just die sexually 3. Become swingers.</p>
<p>Life is short, have fun, get laid</p>
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		<title>Comment on An Equally Valid Choice by ThatToyChick</title>
		<link>http://beyondbirdsbees.com/2009/09/22/equally-valid-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-419</link>
		<dc:creator>ThatToyChick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 23:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved your post. It&#039;s not the route I took, but one I pursued (at least in part) until I was 18. I was adamant about waiting until I was 18 to have penis-in-vagina sex, and not a day goes by that I am not happy I kept that promise to myself. I experienced a lot of weird looks too - most of my friends lost their virginities one or several years before I did, and there was a decided feeling of &quot;what&#039;s wrong with YOU?&quot; every time I mentioned I was still unicorn bait. 

It&#039;s easy to think that one&#039;s take is the &quot;right&quot; one on any particular subject...this post left me struck with the same feeling I had when I watched &quot;Mona Lisa Smile&quot; with my niece a few years back - namely, that just because we have the right (or implied social permission, if that sounds better) to do something, it doesn&#039;t mean that we HAVE to. Sometimes it&#039;s liberating enough just knowing that we COULD, but CHOOSE not to.

I hope your marriage, and your marriage bed, are wonderful and fulfilling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved your post. It&#8217;s not the route I took, but one I pursued (at least in part) until I was 18. I was adamant about waiting until I was 18 to have penis-in-vagina sex, and not a day goes by that I am not happy I kept that promise to myself. I experienced a lot of weird looks too &#8211; most of my friends lost their virginities one or several years before I did, and there was a decided feeling of &#8220;what&#8217;s wrong with YOU?&#8221; every time I mentioned I was still unicorn bait. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s easy to think that one&#8217;s take is the &#8220;right&#8221; one on any particular subject&#8230;this post left me struck with the same feeling I had when I watched &#8220;Mona Lisa Smile&#8221; with my niece a few years back &#8211; namely, that just because we have the right (or implied social permission, if that sounds better) to do something, it doesn&#8217;t mean that we HAVE to. Sometimes it&#8217;s liberating enough just knowing that we COULD, but CHOOSE not to.</p>
<p>I hope your marriage, and your marriage bed, are wonderful and fulfilling.</p>
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		<title>Comment on An Equally Valid Choice by wishingyouwell</title>
		<link>http://beyondbirdsbees.com/2009/09/22/equally-valid-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-417</link>
		<dc:creator>wishingyouwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 16:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely respect your right to your well-defended decision. What&#039;s most important is that you are comfortable with it.

But I respectfully disagree with it -- as others have and will disagree with any one you make about something as important as this.

When I was first married I had slept with one woman, my then wife. We divorced and I am now married to a woman who hadn&#039;t had sex with anyone before she was first married.

Wisdom may or may not come with age, but we both regret not having experimented as much as possible sexually before first marrying. I have come to believe that adolescents should be offered a choice of having as much sex as they can safely and lovingly handle -- I guess a pretty radical view I have to admit.

For example, surely teaching the joys of masturbation would be as safe and self-loving as I can imagine -- not a requirement, but encouragement. And yes, I&#039;m radical enough to say that *any* prohibitions against it might be mentioned, but not given any credence whatever. I think the ending of giving any credible reason for abstaining from masturbation is one of the great accomplishments of the boomer generation.

So, yes, good luck on your journey. May it be as a happy a one as it can be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely respect your right to your well-defended decision. What&#8217;s most important is that you are comfortable with it.</p>
<p>But I respectfully disagree with it &#8212; as others have and will disagree with any one you make about something as important as this.</p>
<p>When I was first married I had slept with one woman, my then wife. We divorced and I am now married to a woman who hadn&#8217;t had sex with anyone before she was first married.</p>
<p>Wisdom may or may not come with age, but we both regret not having experimented as much as possible sexually before first marrying. I have come to believe that adolescents should be offered a choice of having as much sex as they can safely and lovingly handle &#8212; I guess a pretty radical view I have to admit.</p>
<p>For example, surely teaching the joys of masturbation would be as safe and self-loving as I can imagine &#8212; not a requirement, but encouragement. And yes, I&#8217;m radical enough to say that *any* prohibitions against it might be mentioned, but not given any credence whatever. I think the ending of giving any credible reason for abstaining from masturbation is one of the great accomplishments of the boomer generation.</p>
<p>So, yes, good luck on your journey. May it be as a happy a one as it can be.</p>
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		<title>Comment on An Equally Valid Choice by Jack</title>
		<link>http://beyondbirdsbees.com/2009/09/22/equally-valid-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-414</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 06:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For some reason I was immediately in support of the author of this post. Now I did not wait till I was married, not by a long shot. My wife of greater than 20 years did not wait either. I have had &quot;some-to-many&quot; sexual partners and my wife a &quot;few-to-some&quot; (specific numbers aren&#039;t meaningful because they are different to each person reading but for a guide some is around 15).

We also have 3 children, all girls, with the eldest one nearly 18 and I do not think it is likely any one of them will wait but I am definitely not concerned as they have always made thoughtful choices so far.

So why am I in vehement support? Because its well written and just plain shrieks of honesty and sincerity.

The pulling out of sentences and dissecting them will always yield results that vary from the intent of the author. Sometimes by just a little and sometimes by a lot but the overall post for me is thoughtful and respectful and also provides a good counterpoint to some of my own opinions. 

I especially liked the subtle way that the author indicated that she believes her choices now show respect and love not only for herself and her current partner but also her partner in the future. 

Well thought out and good luck with your journey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For some reason I was immediately in support of the author of this post. Now I did not wait till I was married, not by a long shot. My wife of greater than 20 years did not wait either. I have had &#8220;some-to-many&#8221; sexual partners and my wife a &#8220;few-to-some&#8221; (specific numbers aren&#8217;t meaningful because they are different to each person reading but for a guide some is around 15).</p>
<p>We also have 3 children, all girls, with the eldest one nearly 18 and I do not think it is likely any one of them will wait but I am definitely not concerned as they have always made thoughtful choices so far.</p>
<p>So why am I in vehement support? Because its well written and just plain shrieks of honesty and sincerity.</p>
<p>The pulling out of sentences and dissecting them will always yield results that vary from the intent of the author. Sometimes by just a little and sometimes by a lot but the overall post for me is thoughtful and respectful and also provides a good counterpoint to some of my own opinions. </p>
<p>I especially liked the subtle way that the author indicated that she believes her choices now show respect and love not only for herself and her current partner but also her partner in the future. </p>
<p>Well thought out and good luck with your journey</p>
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		<title>Comment on Awful: Senate Finance Committee Reinstates $50 Million in Abstinence Education Funding by BeBe, BeyondBirdsBees.com Admin</title>
		<link>http://beyondbirdsbees.com/2009/09/30/awful-senate-finance-committee-reinstates-50-million-in-abstinence-education-funding/comment-page-1/#comment-413</link>
		<dc:creator>BeBe, BeyondBirdsBees.com Admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 05:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, so much for reading the research. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, so much for reading the research. :(</p>
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		<title>Comment on Awful: Senate Finance Committee Reinstates $50 Million in Abstinence Education Funding by archdiva</title>
		<link>http://beyondbirdsbees.com/2009/09/30/awful-senate-finance-committee-reinstates-50-million-in-abstinence-education-funding/comment-page-1/#comment-410</link>
		<dc:creator>archdiva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 02:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um...no, it really Really REALLY doesn&#039;t work. So much for reading the research, eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um&#8230;no, it really Really REALLY doesn&#8217;t work. So much for reading the research, eh?</p>
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